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Communism vs. Capitalism

Communism Vs. Capitalism

When I first started on Fanbox, one of the first posts I read was by Kanchan Mitra on the practicality of Communism.

Now, being a socioligist at heart, this question intrigues me. So I've dug a little deeper, and by using some other posts and my own material, I'll hope to enlighten you a bit about the subject of Communism vs. Capitalism.

 

What Is Communism?

Communism Vs. Capitalism

The first thing that might jump into your head, when this question is asked, is an image of Communist China, or the USSR during the Cold War...

There is an interesting post by Thushara BM on the subject of Communism.

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Martin Binnington

Thanks Kanchan. I agree that for a time, an amalgamation of the two may work, as long as it doesn't result in Stalinism again. Communism should be the ideal scenario. We see this in Fanbox actually; everyone is working together for the benefit of all.
(well, most of us work together. I see the odd post about how fanbox doesn't give someone more money...)
Thanks for your comments, and hopefully one of us will write another interesting post again soon!

82 months ago
Adam Smith

I think that both are a blend already, it's just that in a Capitalist Society, the elements recognizable as communist don't arise until later, when resources become scarce and the gap between the upper and lower classes becomes too large. Capitalism always requires exploitation of the lower classes.

In Communism, the elements recognizable as capitalistic don't arise until later, when resources become scarce and the gap between the upper and lower classes becomes large.

Yes, both require the existence of different classes, despite what they purport. And both need a strong middle class to survive. However, the nature of each is that the middle class cannot survive and when it collapses, we have an environment ripe for revolution.

I know I am oversimplifying the issues, and in some cases sharing my ignorance, but until we have true peace on earth and wealth, health and education for all, there can never be a "perfect" government or society. As long as there are enemies, or needful neighbors, or covetous ones, the security of any nation will be in peril, and the need for defense will lead to oppression in many forms. Forms such as arms races, trade imbalances, taxation, limitations on consumption, immigration, emigration, birth control, etc.

Not to mention basic human greed, and the corruption that power brings on.

Sorry for this ramble. I should have taken more time to organize my thoughts. Your post is certainly provocative and well organized and thought out. Thank you for the lesson.

82 months ago
Martin Binnington

Interesting! I hadn't thought of the argument in this way...
Don't worry about over-simplifying the issue, I think it makes sense.
Just as you have the ability to write great poems and stories about your interests, so I am able to write my thoughts in a clear and organised way. It doesn't mean what I say is right, or shouldn't be argued with. It just means it's easy to read :-)

82 months ago
Kvetoslav Závodský

Thank you for such interesting even a little bit difficult subject of your blog.
I was curious to know your thoughts because I experienced both kind of regime in my country.
You are right, the Socialism in applied in the real situation was just pretending of the original idea of Comunism by Marx, Engels and later V.I.Lenin.
But the idea of Communism looks very nice even so unreal. The main problem is that people will never work for the sake of the whole society. Everyone wants the best for him/her self what is natural and inherited from our wild ancestors.
I am a little bit surprised to see such complicated philosophic discussion in Fanbox.
Have nice day, relaxing weekend and good luck! :-)

82 months ago
Kvetoslav Závodský

Thank you for the interesting educative qutes, Willie.

80 months ago
Martin Binnington

Thank you! I'm a philosophical kind of guy. I often sit for hours, just thinking about stuff.
The main reason communism can't work just now is the length of time we've been used to capitalism... It's odd, but we're the only animal that considers exploiting our resources.
If the capitalist economy were to collapse, meaning money was worthless, then there might be a chance for us to work together... It's really the only way to get lasting peace!

82 months ago
Lina Tanase

Great post, my friend! Great! 5*****

81 months ago
Martin Binnington

Thank you for reading this Lina... it was something to do while I was watching the snow last week!

81 months ago
Jessicca Lee

@___@
This reminded me of my studies in "Government, Business and Society" subject....
I wished I could have read this posts when I was doing my research back then. LOL..

Enough said, thank you so much for sharing. I agree we need a balance. We can't be extreme on either side. But how many people are willing NOT to be the slave of money and power? :)

81 months ago
Martin Binnington

That's a very good quetion! Once people have a taste for money and power, most of the time they'll do anything to get more. (reminds me of a description of drugs I once gave...)
I'm still studying power, politics and economics so these ideas just kinda float around in my head, waiting to be put on paper!
What seems a bit funny to me is the more people learn about these sorts of questions, the more they seem to advocate moderation... I've never heard of a sociology graduate shouting "death to the capitalist oppressors!"

81 months ago
Jessicca Lee

hahahaha!
(at "death to the capitalist oppressors!")
I guess it is true. Even the wisest & richest king known, King Solomon, fall short when he couldn't take all the power and money around him.
I guess when people learn to REALLY wake up and realise "With great power, comes great responsibility" (as the Spiderman's uncle said in the movies), maybe there'll a silver-lining hope for this world.

81 months ago
Martin Binnington

Ahhh Spiderman! Stan Lee was a genius at coming up with great meaningful quotes like that :-)
I'm thinking that in order to get to that silver lining, we're going to go through one helluva storm (which might have already started, so watch this space...)

81 months ago
Giana Elgiana

Good blog. I can confirm. 15 years I lived under communism. It does not work. Thanks for thinking about

81 months ago
Martin Binnington

Thank you Giana. I'm trying to think of ways that political systems and economic systems could change for the better. I'd be interested in hearing your experiences of life under such a regime, if you'd like to talk about it (probably not in a public forum though... :-))

81 months ago
Giana Elgiana

Tthanks for your interest. I have a problem my English is not perfect. It helps me a translator. I understand but do not speak well ...

81 months ago
Giana Elgiana

It is true, and our city is not job and very much unemployment

81 months ago
Martin Binnington

If you like Giana, you can write in your own language, and I'll get it translated. I'm very poor at most languages, but I know people who'll be happy to translate for us :-)

81 months ago
Giana Elgiana

well - how many languages ​​you know? I still have a little russian - I learned it in elementary school :-)

81 months ago
Martin Binnington

Personally, I know English, French and Spanish. Some of my friends know Russian, Czech, Italian, German and Greek... You can talk in any language you feel comfortable, I'll be able to find someone to translate for us

81 months ago
Giana Elgiana

ok will be good...

81 months ago
Martin Binnington

I'm glad to help

81 months ago
Giana Elgiana

Ok, I will thinking about what to write

81 months ago
Nav नव

before saying anything I want to ask you a question ...... I am actually searching the answer for this question from a long time.

question is ,
As in communism everything will be shared amongst the people than who will manage the things and what are the basis by which the government in the communism system comes in power and what sort of role it plays

81 months ago
Martin Binnington

I think this is a question which still has no clear answer to be honest.

Clearly there has to be some form of government or other distribution network, otherwise the whole system wouldn't get off the ground.
On the other hand, as we saw with the Soviets and other so-called "Communist" countries, having the power to control this is a huge responsibility, and can easily corrupt...

I think what Marx thought when he formed his theory was that the power, as well as the wealth and methods of production, should be equally spread throughout society.
What has gone wrong (in my view) with current forms of power is that there are a handful of people who seem to wield an absolute power over the general public. We used to call this an dictatorship or oligarchy... Now it's called democracy.

I would tend to agree that the practicalities of such a system need clarified, but anything would be better than the systems currently in place...

I know this doesn't answer the question, but since we've never had a true communist system on a large scale, it would be difficult to theorise what it would look like without dedicating a lot of time. (And at the moment, I simply don't have that time... If you give me a few years though :-))

81 months ago
Tamas Deak

rule #1: "all the animals are equal" (but the pigs are more equal)
see how the rules are changing in Orwell Animal farm
it helps to understand how communism works (shifts to dictatorship) in reality
be happy that we are living in a free society, don't get blended with theoretical works

81 months ago
Martin Binnington

Being mixed up in theoretical work is my life Tamas, I'm a sociologist, as well as a political theorist.
If I thought my society was truly free... Well, that's a question for another day really.
We could look at free society where people are prosecuted for what they say on the Internet, or for their beliefs, or their freedom is severely curtailed to the point that it's unconstitutional...

81 months ago
Tamas Deak

look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ytiuVBqxHQ
or this one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqWtPtItuvA
see how this guy survived 14 years of being imprisoned and tortured by the communists

81 months ago
Martin Binnington

I'm not saying it wasn't difficult. Everyone knows that it was.
What I'm saying is that although the leaders called themselves the "Communist Party", so everyone says it was communist, it actually wasn't true Communism, as advocated by Marx and other social theorists.
Read http://www.worldology.com/Europe/Europe_Articles/rise_of_communism.htm
Marx, and a lot of others, thought that the best way to run a country is through community-based ownership, instead of being owned by big organisations who just want to make profits.

If you look at so-called "Communist" States, from the past and in modern times, the leading party owns everything, just as a big corporation does. It's not communism.

81 months ago
Yolanda Marcos

It is clear that communism does not work, that no communist country has come forward, their people have lived in absolute poverty while more, its leaders and rulers lived in opulence, the sufferer is always the common people.
the idea is not bad if you get along, but it is impossible

80 months ago
Martin Binnington

Do you have any suggestions for a better way of living in society? If we can't trust people who lead us, we should run for office ourselves. The trouble is that while true Communism means looking out for your neighbours, nobody really cares that much about the well being of people outside their own family and friend group.
As long as humans are self-centred, greedy and attracted to power, there is no future without war, poverty, or economic disparity.

80 months ago
Yolanda Marcos

totally agree with you about this last I say, you can not trust people, because life makes them selfish and greedy and not share anything other than for personal gain, I have the solution, hopefully the would

80 months ago
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